Oh, yes, Obama prays all right: in a mosque
December 11th, 2009
The Usurper claimed before the election that he is a Christian. Now Obama prays in a mosque [photo taken in a mosque in Istanbul, Turkey]. What I wouldn’t give to speak to all those millions of Americans who earnestly believed Obama to be a Christian, especially Rick Warren. I specifically remember a woman attending a John McCain campaign who took the microphone from Mccain and said that she felt Obama was a Muslim and not a Christian — whereby McCain jerks the microphone away from this woman and stated emphatically that Obama is a Christian and a fine family man. Of course we all know McCain is a sell-out to big government and an RINO. Now, we know the real truth!
[comment by Bill in FL, an American Grand Jury member
And now the facts.
President Obama visited a Mosque where he, as is the custom, removed his shoes. The text with the photo is “President Obama removes his shoes as he prepares to visit the Blue Mosque on April 7, 2009, in Istanbul. Official White House Photo by Pete Souza.”
What a crock. Are these AGJ members that gullible or is it just about spreading false rumors?
Another sock-less prayer session…
Fools.
I’ll bet when he visits a synagogue, he puts on a yarmulke, so he must be Jewish as well.
Here is an interesting story about President Bush and the King of Saudi Arbis holding hands:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/04/27/eveningnews/main691413.shtml
Saudi Arabia is a muslim country, where a fairly strict brand of Islam (Wahhabi) is practiced.
Being a fairly rational and logical person, I see this as a President visiting a foreign head of state and being respectful by following local customs. A fairly sensitive and understanding gesture by President Bush.
But if I channel the birthing mindset for a moment, I see this bromance as proof that Bush was a closet Muslim. And I now understand why oil price were allowed to rise to $150/barrel and why we never caught Osama Bin Laden
With birthers, this would be considered a “two-fer”..”three-fer” if you factor in race.
Most of the American Grand Jury members probably hang out at Stormfront, which should explain the “why”of their belief in the “so called real truth” …
Its basic birtherism-if you believe it, its true. Thats why Birthers can’t understand why the rest of us don’t recognize the obvious “facts” that Obama is a Kenyan-born marxist muslim who hates America!
Re: “Kenyan-born.”
Obama was born in Hawaii as his official birth certificate, twice confirmed by the officials in Hawaii, makes clear.
The National Review had this to say about the Kenya myth:
“The theory that Obama was born in Kenya, that he was smuggled into the U.S., and that his parents somehow hoodwinked Hawaiian authorities into falsely certifying his birth in Oahu, is crazy stuff.”
OMG, gorefan – were you not previously aware of the close friendship the Bush’s had with the Saudi King?
I understand the parallel your trying to draw, but it has been well known for years how close the Bush’s are to many Saudi families. Can you say corruption?
I have no problem with Obama taking his shoes off when he enters a Mosque – that is required of anyone who visits a Mosque and I am not delusional to think that action alone makes him a Muslim. That’s absurd. However, there are plenty of other actions and statements that make me pause and wonder about his true sentiments.
I didn’t like the connection with Bush and the Saudi’s and I don’t like the connection with Obama and Islam.
I didn’t like the hand-holding and I don’t like the bowing and apologizing. Personally, I have NOTHING to apologize for – Obama may have, but he should apologize on his own behalf and not on the behalf of the nation as a whole. If you, yourself would like to apologize, then write a note and mail it.
The problem with your analogy is the fact that Bush is no longer in power – well, wait – is he? Oh, no, that new guy is Obama, but he sure acts a lot like Bush!
I don’t understand why dignitaries cannot just visit foreign nations and behave respectfully. Don’t go overboard, and don’t be rude. How about if we just had a President that acted ‘normal’, you know smile, shake hands, pleasant nodding – just be normal. I’m not sure I could describe either Bush or Obama as knowing what ‘normal’ is, however.
Anyone who would willingly expose himself to the 24/7 trashing and analysis of every word and gesture by self-appointed pundits that comes with being President in this day and age is, by definition, not “normal”.
“OMG, gorefan – were you not previously aware of the close friendship the Bush’s had with the Saudi King?
OMG, Sally, were you not previously aware of the English rules for forming proper plurals? The plural of “Bush” is Bushes.
“I understand the parallel your trying to draw, but it has been well known for years how close the Bush’s are to many Saudi families. Can you say corruption?”
OMG, Sally, did you not learn in elementary school that “your” is a possessive pronoun, whereas “you’re” is a contraction for “you are”? Can you say Bushes?
“However, there are plenty of other actions and statements that make me pause and wonder about his true sentiments.”
Since there are “plenty” to chose from, an example or two might help here. I’ll admit to being dense, but I’m not following you here.
“I didn’t like the connection with Bush and the Saudi’s and I don’t like the connection with Obama and Islam.”
Yikes, Sally, you did it again. The plural of “Saudi” is Saudis. Hey, anyone’s entitled to a pass on a typo from time to time, but you really didn’t learn how to form plurals in third grade, did you?
Now then, what, exactly, is “the connection with [sic] Obama and Islam”? I’m really trying to understand this. Should he avoid all official and diplomatic contact with anyone who is or might be a Muslim? Or does this have something to do with the fact that his father was apparently a Muslim? Oh, maybe it’s his middle name?
I mean, what should be the policy going forward here? Where’s the beef?
“I didn’t like the hand-holding and I don’t like the bowing and apologizing.”
Masterful, Sally! Here, you’ve doubled-down on your self-serving declaration of fair-mindedness. By balancing Bush’s hand-holding with Obama’s bowing, you establish yourself as a well-balanced and objective person. That works for me. Really!
[Note that it is entirely proper to use an apostrophe to refer to "Bush's hand-holding" because it was Bush's hand-holding (i.e., a possessive), not Obama's.]
“Personally, I have NOTHING to apologize for…”
I disagree. You are a serial apostrophe abuser. Have you no shame?
“I don’t understand why dignitaries cannot just visit foreign nations and behave respectfully.”
I couldn’t agree with you more! I think dignitaries should behave respectfully. Definitely.
Could I ask you a question about this? When you say “respectfully”, should they consider how their behavior will be perceived by the people with whom they are actually interacting, or should they be held to the standards of, say, Christian Crossing, OK, or Bumfuck, TN?
I don’t know how you’ve handled situations like this in the course of your extensive travels abroad, but when I’m in Italy, I avoid showing approval with the “OK” hand sign (you know, when you make an “O” with your thumb and forefinger). That’s because most Italians interpret the gesture as meaning “asshole”.
Ah, but maybe I’m wrong about this. I’m an American, after all, and when it comes to protocol, the rest of the world needs to catch up with us, right?
Can I tell you a true story? One time I was in Thailand and I accidentally bumped into a woman on the street — damn near knocked her ass over bandbox. Not able to speak enough Thai to apologize adequately, I shot her a “wai”. (That’s a move where you put your hands together on your chest and bow slightly. It worked like a charm and she ended up smiling and shooting a wai back at me. Can you believe it?
But now that I reconsider it, I did that all wrong, didn’t I? Did this slip of the hands inadvertently convert me into a Buddhist? Do you think maybe God interpret this as a denial of my Savior, Jesus Christ? Lordie, now you’ve got me worried.
All I can say is, if I’m ever President, I’m going to appoint someone knowledgeable, just like you, as Chief of Protocol. Yeah, ‘Merkin standards rule! Smile, shake hands, pleasant nodding, no problem.
While I still think you have a lot to learn about punctuation, I’ve learned a lot from you, Sally. Thanks.
p.s. Can you say “provincial thinker”? I don’t reallly know what that means; I’m just wondered if you can say it.
I want to apologize to everyone – I had absolutely no idea this was an English class and Obama eligibility blog rolled into one.
Yeah, I have always had problems getting my plurals correct. My college English teacher was frustrated with me beyond belief….somehow, I think you probably share her frustration. LOL
However, I had no idea that my understanding of plurals had a bearing on my intelligence and ability to form my own opinion on the real subject matter at hand. Point made, and understood.
If you made other points in your post to me, they were lost, as I stopped reading your response when I realized that you discounted my view and opinion because I never mastered plurals in English. I must be just totally stupid and illiterate – and probably racist too!
I am sure that there a racists who can spell and those who cannot. My concerns are with your positions regarding issues of fact and law.